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Subject: routing woes
From: Markus Lang <markus,AT,veistos,DOT,com>
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 20:21:44 +0100

Greetings all,

I have a small problem concerning the route and routing philosophy.

Let's assume that I have the IP ranges 192.168.1-2 at my disposal and
that they are routed "normally" in internet. is a gateway (inet) & firewall is a gateway (inet) & firewall

other IP's are workstations (yes, they have a internet-visible IP) which
are protected by the firewalls.

a visualization:

workstations    gateway / fw         gateway / fw    workstations

Now, I need to connect these two nets using CIPE.

My problem is this:
Once I create a CIPE interface in 1.1, it creates a route to 2.1 (the
host, not the net 2.0). 

Now, when I try to create a net route to 2.0 through 2.1, it fails. I
tried also to assign 2.2 to CIPE interface, but that failed also. Both
tries ended up with CIPE error 

        Nov 20 18:52:27 xyz kernel: cipcb0: looped route

I'm not a routing guru and I'm a bit frustrated (well, a lot

I understand that my 2nd solution fails when it has the gateway IP (2.2)
in the net range (2.0) also, and both use the cipcb0 interface. (2.1
route uses eth1, not cipcb0)

The first should work, methinks.. future development or my stupidity?
(please, my stupidity..)

So, the philosophical question would be something like this: While CIPE
is a point-to-point protocol, why couldn't packages be routed to it with
a net target? or something, as the routing vocabulary is just starting
to build up...


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