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Subject: Re: Stable NT based solution
From: Damion Wilson <dwilson,AT,ibl,DOT,bm>
Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2002 04:52:56 +0200
In-reply-to: <41A9B157C50CD31184F20008C79F796801D1A1C6@KYO1>

I think that you've stumbled onto something here. Can you describe your setup 
in detail, including all routers and network gear in between the two CIPE 
peers ?

DKW

On Friday 05 July 2002 10:40 pm, you wrote:
> it's occured as random.
> when i stop and start the CIPE service.
> it is code reboot.. without any message..
> 2K or NT 4.0 also same problems.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Damion Wilson [mailto:dwilson,AT,ibl,DOT,bm
> Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 12:31 AM
> To: Kim, Sang Dong
> Cc: cipe-l,AT,inka,DOT,de
> Subject: Re: Stable NT based solution
>
>
> Which one crashes ? NT4 or Win2K (or both) ?
>
> What does the BSOD message (the top line) say ?
>
> DKW
>
> On Friday 05 July 2002 05:26 am, Kim, Sang Dong wrote:
> > Hi, I'm a user of NT based CIPE.
> >
> > I'm using the NT based CIPE
> > Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2K,
> > Both of CIPE working but, it is sometime stop the service.
> > and when we start and stop the service..
> > it is cold rebooting... one side only..
> > I think that NT version still has small packet problem.
> > and i am using a sygate as a NAT.
> > when i use some of encripted site.. it is stop working..
> > Just it is my experiance.
> > I'm waiting to be solved it.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Damion Wilson [mailto:dwilson,AT,ibl,DOT,bm
> > Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 4:27 AM
> > To: Yves Smolders
> > Cc: cipe-l,AT,inka,DOT,de
> > Subject: Re: Stable NT based solution
> >
> >
> > I know you weren't being insulting, but this is Open Source (or FreeWare,
> > or
> >
> > whatever we're calling ourselves this week), so it's up to all of us to
>
> fix
>
> > the things that ail us :-)
> >
> > You can run CIPE over any UDP port/s you choose to. If you want to use
> > the SSH
> > or NTP port numbers, that's fine. If you do a netstat -a and the UDP port
> > that you want to use isn't bound by any other application, go for it.
> >
> > I think that there are a few people using it successfully for various
> > situations. I'd be interested in knowing if the NT4 box crashes
> > consistently
> >
> > when doing large data transfers over the tunnel, and what the BSOD
>
> messages
>
> > say...
> >
> > It should be even easier than that. The original scenario for CIPE-Win32
> > was
> >
> > for a remote user to connect to an internal Sybase database. CIPE-Win32
>
> was
>
> > left running all the time so the link always appeared to be up, but, of
> > course, tunnel packets could only be transferred when his computer was
> > connected to his ISP. If you dispense with the dialup metaphor, it
>
> actually
>
> > gets simpler. You can then shut it down whenever you want or change the
>
> key
>
> > whenever you want. If you reboot the box, it comes back to where it was
> > with
> >
> > no extra interaction.
> >
> > I never liked the dialup semantics used by PPTP. This stuff should be
> > non-intrusive instead of in your face all the time. VPN software doesn't
>
> do
>
> > all that much user interaction and all it really needs from the user is a
> > session key or passphrase. You should be able to stop it and start it
> > when you want to, but that should be a button pressing kind of action,
> > not the way
> > those guys went about it.
> >
> > DKW
> >
> > On Thursday 04 July 2002 03:47 pm, you wrote:
> > > Sorry Damion,
> > >
> > > I wasn't trying to write off your work as being unstable.
> > >
> > > The best price/perfomance internet solution for soho that we have here
>
> in
>
> > > Belgium is a product from Telenet called Pandora Pro.
> > >
> > > It's a cable modem solution without fixed IP address, but it's used
> > > frequently in Belgium.
> > >
> > > In order to have VPN's over this link, I need to search for
> > > non-standard solutions as Telenet has a very harsh policy.  They don't
> > > allow IP traffic below port 1024 from and to the internet and their
> > > DHCP renew time is...
> >
> > 30
> >
> > > minutes!  Sometimes they even force the issue and disconnect &
> > > reconnect cable modems that are up for a long time...
> > >
> > > So I turned to CIPE, and some dynamic DNS program to fix those variable
> > > addresses.
> > >
> > > With the latest build on a win2000 machine on one side and an NT4
> > > server SP5 at the other, when retrieving POP3 e-mail from an nt server,
> > > the
> >
> > latter
> >
> > > just rebooted at a certain moment.
> > >
> > > I admit I should try some more configurations, the problem might be at
>
> my
>
> > > end.  I was just inquiring if anyone succesfully is running
>
> Cipe-Windows,
>
> > > and what platforms they are using, so that I can test on the right
> > > platforms right away.
> > >
> > > CIPE is really nice for LAN-to-LAN solutions.  In the future it would
> > > be really nice if the CIPE adapter could be transformed into a dial-up
> >
> > adapter
> >
> > > so it can be used to "dial-in" when nescessary; just like PPTP and
> > > IPSEC clients
> > >
> > > Yves Smolders
> > > Hofline International
> > > yves,AT,hofline,DOT,be
> > > tel +32 15 55 47 20
> > > fax +32 15 55 46 70
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Damion Wilson" <dwilson,AT,ibl,DOT,bm>
> > > To: "Yves Smolders" <yves.smolders,AT,pandora,DOT,be>
> > > Cc: <cipe-l,AT,inka,DOT,de>
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 8:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Stable NT based solution
> > >
> > >
> > > My test setup is three machines using three point to point links. One
> > > is Win2K, one is NT4.0 and the other is Mandrake 8.1. The test
> > > procedure is a constant data transfer over each of the links (for
> > > weeks).
> > >
> > > I would rather know what the problem is instead of writing things off
> > > as "Not
> > > Stable Yet"
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > DKW
> > >
> > > On Thursday 04 July 2002 11:16 am, Yves Smolders wrote:
> > > > Peter,
> > > >
> > > > I do not intend to connect them straight to the net, there is
> > > > adequate firewalling at each side.  (FreeBSD bridging firewalls with
> > > > shaping)
> > > >
> > > > The problem is, I like Cipe but I'm not very experienced with linux
> > > > just yet.  It's a shame the NT versions aren't stable yet...
> > > >
> > > > Yves Smolders
> > > > Hofline International
> > > > yves,AT,hofline,DOT,be
> > > > tel +32 15 55 47 20
> > > > fax +32 15 55 46 70
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Peter van den Heuvel" <peter,AT,bank-connect,DOT,com>
> > > > Cc: <cipe-l,AT,inka,DOT,de>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 12:46 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Stable NT based solution
> > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone here have tips on how to make 2 NT based machines
> > > >
> > > > (2000/XP/NT)
> > > >
> > > > > > connect stable?
> > > > >
> > > > > I never use Microsoft boxes directly on the net. There's always a
> >
> > Linux
> >
> > > > > firewalling and cipe box in between. And that's just as stable as
> > > > > my ISP connections. For your average DSL you could probably run a
> > > > > 386
> >
> > with
> >
> > > > > a hand built 2.2 kernel. I'm not saying that NT would be bad, just
> >
> > that
> >
> > > > > the relevant Cipe implementation is not yet as mature and that a
> >
> > decent
> >
> > > > > firewall seems harder to get right.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > > >
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