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Subject: RE: Setting up Samba over a CIPE-tunnel
From: "Joseph Jamieson" <jjamieson,AT,FutureFoundations,DOT,com>
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 13:27:49 -0500
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Thread-topic: Setting up Samba over a CIPE-tunnel

If you were using Microsoft WINS servers, you could simply set up a
local WINS server at each location and replicate them back and forth to
each other.   This would solve your problems.

Unfortunately, you can't really do that with Samba.   Apparently there's
some new functionality in Samba 3 that may allow for WINS replication
but I haven't looked at it.  Might be worth a look.

Another approach is to use a Dynamic DNS type setup for basic name
resolution, but this won't really help for domain controller type
netbios records.

If you set up the WINS server on the hub as you suggested, it could
possibly work for you but you said you don't run Samba there.  Plus,
WINS queries over the WAN would be extra traffic and kinda slow for the
workstations, especially if their WAN connection is the one that's down
and they can't contact the WINS server.

It's a dilemma!

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-cipe-l,AT,inka,DOT,de [mailto:owner-cipe-l,AT,inka,DOT,de On 
Behalf Of
Marius Flage
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 11:08 AM
To: cipe-l,AT,inka,DOT,de
Subject: Setting up Samba over a CIPE-tunnel

Hi there

I just saw the previous post that addressed the possibility of this
setup, but I'm curious about the specifics.

At the moment I'm using a central server running pkcipe that serves as a
"hub" for the different peers (three in total, all of them are
well-hidden behind NAT, and that's why I'm using the central server that
has a publicly routable IP).

Anyway, I want to set up a windows networking-environment with the
different tunnels into a big one. Each side on the tunnel is already
running a fully functional network neighbourhood, all with Samba-servers
serving as master browsers (the cipe-tunnels are also established from
the same server). The only server not running samba is the central hub.

So, the network looks something like this:

Peer A has the physical network and has established a
cipe-tunnel to the hub over (hub has .1 and peer has .2,
this goes for every other peer).

Peer B has the physical networks and and
is connected to the central hub over the

Peer C has the physical network and is connected over

Problem is, all the different peers can disappear at any time, the only
server that stays up all the time is the hub. So, running a WINS server
on either of the peers isn't guaranteed to work. The option could be to
run the WINS server on the hub, but I'm not running Samba there.

Can anyone give me hints to a fully working Samba-solution with DNS and
everything in place? I'd love to see example configurations too.


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